The Re:flex chassis is made to flex, so I’d be a bit concerned with changing the loading on it… but it would be great to get rid of that stupid hinged disc.

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found these but the site isn’t really giving me a feeling of confidence that I’ll receive the plates:

@cc_eded Looks legit to me!

It's no more mickey mouse than the web store at carversconnection.com, it looks to me that these guys are making custom products for snowboarding just like me!  Offset discs are nice too when you're sensitive to the boot positions.

Also, PayPal offers some protection.  If you don't receive the items you can claim your money back from PayPal.   I had to send them about a dozen tracking numbers and proof of delivery to set up the commercial account and get off "probation" at the start.  It's quite safe.

Hey @cc-eded I’ve purchased a few products from this site and they have all arrived. I was initially very hesitant like yourself but it is legit. The offset disc was actually one of the purchases I made.

@board-doctor: good point.  Due to my boot out issues I was planning on getting the butterfly plates offered on this site which I believe would compromise the flex afforded by those knock outs / hinges, no?  Or am I miscalculating?
Board ->plates will stiffen board  -> bindings and discs will still flex?  If I get the plates and the discs will I further amplify the stiffness of the board?  As in it will become harder to really flex the board?

@chris-h thanks for the reply.  How are you using the discs?  In the way I described above?  To unlock the missing angles from the hinged plates?  Are they stiffening the feel of the board in a noticable way?

Burton went all in on this idea that the board flex is increased under the binding. They even mill their core under the bindings in some versions of their “squeeze box”.  Their EST bindings really are a unique ride (I actually do like it on pow boards, but wish I could get steeper binding angles).  The Re:flex was their compromised design for standard insert boards without the channel.  There’s very little base material and the heel-toe drive really suffers.  If your primary goal is to carve hard, stiffening that up is probably a good idea.  You are going to loose some board flex & feel.

@board-doctor - I can understand that concept (the hinge allowing more flex).  I've been riding since the mid 80s in New England.  Carving and hard boots was a way of life.  Took a bunch of years off after moving to Georgia, but over the past 10 years have been fortunate enough to get out West and back home for about 5-8 days of riding.  I want to re-capture that feeling of hard boots and really laying some trenches but have the ability to ride all around conditions.  Even within the same run.  Asking for the world, hoping for the best.

You feel like the plates alone, the discs alone or both are my best option?

Honestly I don't know how well those step-on boots & bindings will perform at 45 degrees.  They weren't designed for that.  The plates & discs should help.  Definitely report back!

@board-doctor I was on them in deep stuff at Winter Park, CO as well as some corduroy in New England last year for 7 days combined.  Boot out was a problem heel side.  Set up is 30 posi rear and maybe 40 posi front (I need to look it could be 37).  I liked the ride other than the boot out.  Longer board that I was riding previously, wider too.  Rode more like what I am looking for.  

Anyhow, will report back when I put it all together.

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@chris-h thanks for the reply.  How are you using the discs?  In the way I described above?  To unlock the missing angles from the hinged plates?  Are they stiffening the feel of the board in a noticable way?

I actually purchased them in the hope of getting more toe offset to centre my boot on my board. I downed sized my boots from 28 mondo to 27 and with the standard re-flex disc I couldn’t get enough toe offset to centre my boot. In the video for the aluminium disc it looked like it might have had an extra notch for more offsetting. It doesn’t it only offsets one notch either side of centre.

I ran them for a while anyway. I think by themselves they would stiffen the board slightly but I was actually using them with the Trenched butterfly wing riser as you intend. The risers make any stiffening from the disc redundant.

 I don’t know if it’s because the binding is designed to have a disc that flexes or the fact I was using them with the risers but the binding screws would continually come loose which didn’t happen with the standard discs when using the risers. After 3 or 4 retightens they would stay tight but every time I took the bindings off to wax I’d have to go through the same process. After a handful of uses I noticed very slight dimples starting to develop on the base of the board under the inserts which scared me enough that I stopped using them and went back to the standard discs. Maybe I was just being paranoid but it wasn’t worth the risk of further damage to find out.

This was just my experience. I haven’t tried them without the riser as it might have been the extra leverage from the riser posts or something that caused the issue, but it’s an issue I haven’t got when using the risers with the standard discs.

Thanks for the info Chris.  Strange indeed.  Couple questions about the discs.
1. Can you confirm they eliminate the limited angles allowed by the hinged discs?  I want to get to 45 positive on my front foot.

2. With the risers set up - Risers mount to the board, discs mount binding to the risers?  There is no hardware connecting the discs/bindings to the board?

3. Using the discs alone did you have trouble with hardware getting loose?  Dimples would be an issue for me, I want to avoid that.  I can see how it would happen if the hardware kept getting loose.

4. Sounds like you're only using the risers now, is that accurate?

@cc_eded 

1. Yes they go to a maximum angle of 45 degrees.

2. Check out James’s Butterfly Wing BX Riser Installation Instruction and you can see exactly how they mount. But basically there are 4 mounting posts that you screw into your mounting holes, you sit the risers over plates over these posts then mount your binding on top which screw into the riser posts.

3. I’ve never actually tried mounting the discs straight on the board I’ve only tried them with the risers so far. The dimple issue was obviously caused by me over tightening the mounting screws. It would probably be avoided by using lock tight to stop them coming loose with over tightening.

4. Yes I’m just using the risers with the original disc as the maximum binding angles I run are 30/18 which the standard discs can accommodate. As I said the main reason I got the aluminium disc was to try and get more toeside offset which they didn’t do so it wasn’t worth mucking around with lock tight for me.

Hope this helps

Cheers Chris

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It would probably be avoided by using lock tight to stop them coming loose with over tightening.

Sorry should be “without having to over tighten them”

@chris-h thank you sir.